tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3759353.post116361423053770866..comments2023-08-29T02:42:23.063-05:00Comments on ¡Bemsha SWING!: Jonathanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3759353.post-1163699286120881812006-11-16T11:48:00.000-06:002006-11-16T11:48:00.000-06:00in the "snowflake", perhaps the most fruitful of m...in the "snowflake", perhaps the most fruitful of my syllabistic experiments, one must use the full set of five line-length possibilities (3, 5, 7, 9, and 11 syllables--in any order), before repeating the cycle. this is not unlike a Schoenbergian tone-row, in practice; & invariably produces your type-4 versification. i have been using it so long, now, that it is same-length lineation that seems artificial to me.<BR/><BR/>m.michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00975839075714035618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3759353.post-1163644808855562422006-11-15T20:40:00.000-06:002006-11-15T20:40:00.000-06:00i think the paragraph is simply a 15 line poem. a...i think the paragraph is simply a 15 line poem. a sonnet variation that pays no attention to rhyme or meter.Anthony Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15344532091414013818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3759353.post-1163634334901717152006-11-15T17:45:00.000-06:002006-11-15T17:45:00.000-06:00I don't know about Hayden Carruth. I somehow doubt...I don't know about Hayden Carruth. I somehow doubt it's really what I'm talking about here.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3759353.post-1163633820048757642006-11-15T17:37:00.000-06:002006-11-15T17:37:00.000-06:00Hayden Carruth invented a long stanza he called th...Hayden Carruth invented a long stanza he called the "paragraph." I forget at the moment where he describes the details, but they're fairly complex. I'll look it up & send you the reference.Joseph Duemerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07650314132179290321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3759353.post-1163620741079139292006-11-15T13:59:00.000-06:002006-11-15T13:59:00.000-06:00Hm....I guess Prof. Mayhew is right! That doesn't...Hm....I guess Prof. Mayhew is right! That doesn't mean I agree....Anthony Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15344532091414013818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3759353.post-1163618616366943132006-11-15T13:23:00.000-06:002006-11-15T13:23:00.000-06:00Yes, Rae is good at that.Yes, Rae is good at that.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3759353.post-1163618044370733062006-11-15T13:14:00.000-06:002006-11-15T13:14:00.000-06:00Yes, actually you can use use "that" with people i...Yes, actually you can use use "that" with people in English in restrictive clauses. It's pretty common, actually, and has been for many centuries. Look <A HREF="http://www.bartleby.com/64/C001/062.html" REL="nofollow">here</A> if you don't want to take my word for it. <BR/><BR/>That's in the category of "lies your English teacher told you."Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09371893596402673898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3759353.post-1163618003763562962006-11-15T13:13:00.000-06:002006-11-15T13:13:00.000-06:00Hope you'll go on to speak to the rhythmic effects...Hope you'll go on to speak to the rhythmic effects of varying the lengths of stanzas (see Rae Armantrout, etc).Jordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10451174274596699645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3759353.post-1163615830684257512006-11-15T12:37:00.000-06:002006-11-15T12:37:00.000-06:00that, should read, of course, "linguists who"WV: "...that, should read, of course, "linguists who"<BR/><BR/>WV: "fippo"Anthony Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15344532091414013818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3759353.post-1163615795591865862006-11-15T12:36:00.000-06:002006-11-15T12:36:00.000-06:00"linguists that" or "lingquists who"?in Spanish,..."linguists that" or "lingquists who"?<BR/><BR/>in Spanish, yes, but in English?Anthony Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15344532091414013818noreply@blogger.com